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from Jesus:
My beloved sister, thank
you for sharing your beautiful experience. Thank you for giving me the
opportunity to comment on a topic that is extremely important for all
spiritual seekers, namely the topic of having a spiritual experience
and how to avoid having your first experience be your last.
Let me first say that the purpose of your experience was to show you
that you are much more than a human being. In reality, you are a spiritual
being and your real identity and individuality is anchored in your spiritual
self, your I AM Presence. The spiritual self resides in a higher realm
and is therefore completely untouched by any of the experiences you
have had in the material world. Because your spiritual self is anchored
in a higher realm, your soul has the potential to rise above any of
the conditions you are currently experiencing in this world. This applies
whether you are a homosexual, a heterosexual or a mass murderer.
What you experienced was the unconditional love that your I AM Presence
has for your soul and that I, and all members of the Ascended Host,
have for your soul. We love all human beings with an unconditional love,
and that love is driven by a desire to see all of you rise above the
limitations and imperfections you face in this world. So the true purpose
of giving you, and many other people, an experience like this is to
help you understand and accept that you are more than your human limitations
and that you have the potential to rise above those limitations.
The important aspect of such an experience is that all human beings
are loved unconditionally by their ascended brothers and sisters. It
truly does rain love upon the just and the unjust. Unfortunately, this
is a point that most people find it extremely difficult to understand
and accept, including most Christians. Most people are trapped in the
dualistic state of mind, what I call the carnal mind. This dualistic
state of mind causes them to define an image of reality and then judge
themselves and everyone else based on that perception of reality.
This can cause people to become extremely judgmental toward those who
are different from themselves, and this has led to untold atrocities
throughout history. One example is that many Christians have become
very judgmental toward homosexuals, to the point that they believe that
I or God could not love homosexuals. Your experience was meant to show
you that both God and myself do indeed love you regardless of your sexual
orientation. This then is a lesson that many Christians would do well
by learning, but I think my previous remarks about homosexuality already
reflect this for those who have ears to hear.
Unfortunately, the tendency to judge others is not the only effect of
the relativity of the carnal mind. As I explain throughout this website,
the carnal mind causes people to polarize toward one of two extremes.
One extreme causes people to become judgmental, meaning that they can
love only those who fit into their mold, and the other extreme causes
people to become non-discerning, meaning they think they should approve
of any kind of behavior. In this case, the one extreme is people who
become extremely judgmental toward homosexuals. However, the opposite
extreme is people who say that homosexuality should be viewed as perfectly
natural, even as created by God.
I am sure you will disagree with this viewpoint based on your personal
experience. And while I do not want to in any way discredit your personal
experience, I am a spiritual teacher and as such it is my job to help
you rise to a higher level on the spiritual path. So bear with me as
I try to explain this more clearly.
What I attempt to explain throughout this website is that the goal of
the spiritual path is to rise to the fullness of the Christ consciousness.
As I said 2,000 years ago, you cannot serve two masters, meaning that
you cannot be in two states of consciousness at the same time. If you
want to rise to the Christ consciousness, you must leave behind the
dualistic viewpoints, the mental idols, of the carnal mind. This means
that you must abandon this state of consciousness and the very subtle
reasoning that springs from this state of mind.
The carnal mind can also be called the serpentine mind, and when I told
people to become wise as serpents, it was precisely because you cannot
successfully walk the path to Christhood unless you learn to see through
the duality and the relativity of the carnal mind. As part of the process
of acquiring Christ discernment, you must also come to see how the carnal
mind can influence your spiritual experiences and especially your interpretation
of such experiences.
In the book Save Yourself
there is a lengthy discussion about this topic. The essence of the discussion
is that as you begin to walk the spiritual path, you will gradually
rise to a point where you can and will have a spiritual experience.
Such an experience allows you to temporarily see beyond the duality
of the carnal mind. For a short while you will see some aspect of life
with the clarity of the Christ mind. However, in the beginning it is
possible that your spiritual experience can be colored by the dualistic
beliefs in your carnal mind. And it is likely that, after the experience,
your carnal mind will interpret that experience in ways that are simply
out of alignment with the reality of the experience. Your carnal mind
will impose a mental image upon the experience because it cannot see
the reality of Christ truth.
This is why you will see people who believe they have had a spiritual
experience in which Allah himself told them to kill all Jews or Americans.
This is why some Christians during the middle ages believed they heard
me tell them to kill all Arabs in the Crusades. That is why many Christians
today have a so-called born-again experience, in which they believe
they have received proof that a fundamentalist interpretation of the
Bible is the only key to salvation and that anything else will send
you to Hell. You can see how some of these people react to this website
here.
My point is that your experience was a true experience. You experienced
that I have an unconditional love for who you truly are as a spiritual
being. You experienced that my love has in no way been diminished by
any limitation you currently face in this world. However, it is extremely
important for you to understand that unconditional love does not mean
that I want you to remain in your current limitations. Unconditional
love will not allow any human being to stay in their current limitations,
as is clearly demonstrated in the beautiful discourse by the Presence
of Unconditional Love. Precisely because my love is unconditional,
I do not want you to stay in your current limitations, and I will do
everything I can to help you rise above them. That is why you saw me
challenge the scribes and the Pharisees 2,000 years ago.
In our constant efforts to help every human being rise above their current
limitations, our response is very much tailored to the individual soul.
In your case, you felt very down on yourself because of your homosexuality,
so the first step toward helping you get into a positive spiral was
to help you overcome those negative feelings through the experience
of unconditional love. However, it was not my intent nor my desire to
have you use the experience to reason that you were perfect as you are,
meaning that you are perfect as a homosexual or even as a mortal human
being.
You are not perfect as a homosexual or as a human being. You are perfect
as a spiritual being who sees and accepts herself as a spiritual being.
I have no desire to see you remain stuck in a limited sense of identity.
I have a desire to see every human being rise to a correct sense of
identity, in which they accept themselves as sons or daughters of God.
Therefore, I want people to rise above all of the limitations that spring
from the duality of the carnal mind—and I mean ALL of them.
You have already acquired a sophisticated understanding about the soul.
As you say, the soul was not created in the state of duality. Yet you
are not correct when you say that the soul does not descend into duality,
because it does. The physical body lives in the world of duality, your
soul has descended into that physical body and therefore your soul has
descended into duality. This is not a problem as long as the soul maintains
its identity as a spiritual being. However, although the soul is a very
complex creation, the core of the soul is your sense of identity.
In reality, you are a spiritual being. However, at the level of the
soul, you are who you think you are. This is what makes it possible
for people to fall into a lower state of consciousness and lose the
contact with their spiritual selves. This happens because they gradually
build a false sense of identity as being separated from God, and that
false sense of identity will inevitably be based on the duality of the
carnal mind.
The soul has both masculine qualities and feminine qualities. Some souls
are predominantly masculine and others are predominantly feminine. However,
when you look at the soul from the clear perspective of the Christ mind,
you see that the masculine and feminine qualities of the soul do not
correspond to human sexuality. The soul does not have sexual organs,
and therefore the soul should not be defined in terms of human sexuality.
It is meaningless to talk about human sexuality when you talk about
the soul because the soul is above and beyond human sexuality.
To have a sexual experience, the soul must descend into a physical body.
As long as the soul maintains its connection to the spiritual self,
it will not define itself in terms of human sexuality. It is only when
the soul loses that connection, and therefore becomes trapped in the
duality of the carnal mind, that the soul can build a sense of identity
as being a man or woman. It is only when the soul is trapped in duality
that it tends to define itself based on that sexuality, whether it be
heterosexual or homosexual, male or female.
In fact, when truth be told, God did not create human sexuality. God
created human beings as male and female, but that does not mean that
souls were created with physical sexuality. Before people fell into
the carnal state of consciousness, they did not need physical intercourse
to produce children, and therefore it simply is not correct to say that
God created people as homosexuals. God did not create human beings as
sexual beings. Human sexuality did not appear until after the Fall into
a lower state of consciousness. Unfortunately, this is a truth that
many people will find it difficult to accept, which is why I did not
release it in my original comments on homosexuality.
Nevertheless, the simple fact is that human sexuality is a product of
the lower state of consciousness, and therefore homosexuality is also
a product of this consciousness. Therefore, to fully rise above the
carnal mind, you must leave behind all human sexuality. Please do not
interpret this to mean that I am saying sex is wrong for all human beings
or that people should feel guilty for having sex. At a certain evolutionary
stage, it is acceptable for people to have sex when done with love and
not just to satisfy the body's insatiable desires. What I am saying
is that there does come a point on the spiritual path when a person
must stop defining himself or herself in terms of human sexuality in
order to manifest the full Christ consciousness.
My point here is that what I desire to see for you, and everyone else
on this planet, is that you attain the fullness of Christ consciousness.
To attain that state of consciousness, you must be willing to lose your
life for my sake, meaning that you must be willing to lose your dualistic,
human, mortal sense of identity in order to win the eternal life of
the Christ consciousness. This means that you must leave behind any
sense of identity that is based on these human limitations.
If you were to study the lives of some of the greatest saints, you would
see that they rose above any human sense of identity. They did not define
themselves as man or woman, as white or black, as homosexual or heterosexual.
The greatest among them even rose above religious beliefs and no longer
defined themselves as Christians, Buddhists or Muslims. They defined
themselves as children of God, and a child of God is not bound by any
human limitations. And unless ye become as little children, ye shall
in no wise enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Do you see my point? The spiritual experience you had was real, and
it showed you that you have the potential to rise above any and all
human limitations. The highest potential of that experience is that
you use it as a springboard for rising above limitations. If you use
the experience to reason that you are perfect as a limited human being,
whether you are homosexual or heterosexual, then you are misusing your
experience. You are allowing your carnal mind to impose an interpretation
upon the experience.
One of the most important things you can realize as you walk the spiritual
path is that there is a part of your mind, often called the human ego,
which does not want you to attain Christ consciousness. This part of
your mind will do anything it possibly can to keep you trapped in a
limited sense of identity. And as long as you do not see through the
duality of the carnal mind, the ego will find it very easy to keep you
trapped in such a sense of identity.
I can assure you that we of the Ascended Host would love to see every
human being experience our unconditional love. Yet I can also assure
you that one of the saddest things we experience is when a person attains
an experience of unconditional love and then uses that experience to
reinforce a limited sense of identity instead of using the experience
to rise above the limited sense of identity.
You state that you would love to have the experience again. Let me now
explain to you why you have not been able to attain this experience.
When you first had the experience, two conditions were met. First, you
had a very strong desire for a higher understanding, in this case about
your homosexuality. Second, at some level of your mind you were open
to receiving any answer I might give you. In other words, you were open
to a higher understanding of the situation than you had at the time,
and you did not have a preconceived opinion about what the answer should
be or what you wanted it to be.
Unfortunately, what happened after the experience was that your ego
and carnal mind managed to impose an interpretation upon the experience,
an interpretation that you accepted and still accepts. Therefore, they
used the experience to cement your sense of identity as being a homosexual
being rather than a spiritual being. This means that when you now attempt
to have a spiritual experience, you subconsciously set limits for what
I can show or tell you. You are no longer as open about your homosexuality
as you were when you had your original experience. In other words, you
don't think it is necessary to rise above the homosexuality because
you think it is perfectly in order for you to remain in that sense of
identity. It is precisely this belief that prevents you from having
the experience of unconditional love because that unconditional love
calls you to rise above all of your human limitations—including
your homosexuality.
So the simple fact is that if you want to repeat the experience, you
need to once again clear your mind from any preconceived opinions about
your homosexuality. If I were to give you another experience, you would
only become more trapped in your current sense of identity. Therefore,
I simply cannot give you that experience. However, the moment you again
become open and willing to rise above your current sense of identity,
I can and will give you another experience. Obviously, this applies
to every person who has ever had or will ever have a spiritual experience
and that is why anyone can learn from these comments.
The simple fact is that I have no desire to have people's spirituality
be based on the outer scriptures or an interpretation of those scriptures.
I want everyone to experience the reality of the spiritual side of life,
and you can do that only through and inner, intuitive experience. Yet
to have such an experience, two conditions must be met. You must have
a strong desire for a higher understanding, a higher experience. And
you must have at least some degree of openness that makes you willing
to see beyond your current beliefs, your current sense of identity.
If those two conditions are not met, you cannot break through the veil
of energy that separates you from the spiritual self, and therefore
you will be stuck in the human state of consciousness. Many people have
been stuck in that state of consciousness for a lifetime precisely because
they were not willing to give up, to surrender, to leave behind some
belief that had become part of their sense of identity. I see so many
devoutly spiritual people who never go beyond a certain level because
they have become emotionally attached to a particular belief that they
are not willing to give up.
I see many people who have a spiritual experience that should have been
the start of an ascending spiral. Yet their egos manage to impose an
interpretation on the experience and therefore people close their minds.
Instead of starting an ascending spiral, they simply become frozen in
a certain sense of identity. This has happened to millions upon millions
of religious people from every religion. It is precisely this problem
that prevents many Christians from accepting the teachings I give on
this website.
The important lesson is that after you have a spiritual experience,
it is extremely important that you remain open and do not impose any
particular image or interpretation upon the experience. The reality
is that God and the spiritual realm is above and beyond any of the images,
the idols, created from the duality of the carnal mind. To experience
God, you must be willing to look beyond those images. If you have a
spiritual experience and then impose an image upon the experience, you
will prevent yourself from having more experiences. The reason being
that a carnal image, an idol, causes you to close your mind to the experience
of the spiritual reality.
Therefore, even though a spiritual experience can seem very real and
seem like the ultimate experience, it is extremely wise never to put
that experience in a box created by the human mind. In fact, the best
piece of advice I could possibly give you in this regard is that you
never put God or an ascended being into a box made from the dualistic
images of the human mind. If you seek to limit truth, you will only
limit your own ability to experience truth. Here is an example of putting
an ascended being in a box:
I also notice that
when you speak of homosexuality, just as in the Bible, you make very
little mention of women as homosexuals. As I believe that Christ finds
men and women equal, if this were a pure channeled source (at least
in this instance), that just wouldn't happen.
Could the reality possibly
be that the people who previously responded to my comments on homosexuality
were male? In my original remarks on homosexuality, and throughout this
website, I take great care to state that men and women are equals in
every way.
Here is another example of
how the carnal mind reasons:
I don't recall
a single instance of Jesus condemning homosexuals in the New Testament.
Many people have used this
argument to reason that since I didn't specifically condemn homosexuality,
I must have approved of it. They apparently reason that silence means
consent. Yet did I specifically condemn abortion or child molestation?
Did I tell people not to fly airplanes into skyscrapers? So if you follow
this line of reasoning, you can obviously justify any form of behavior
that I did not specifically condemn—or can you?
Although homosexuality was not uncommon 2,000 years ago, it was not
part of the public debate as it is today. However, the real reason I
did not mention homosexuality was that I did not consider it an important
issue. First of all, before my resurrection I believed that we were
nearing the end times, and therefore people's sexuality would soon become
a moot point. Secondly, I knew from experience that when people begin
to attain Christ consciousness, they rise above human sexuality.
In closing, let me present
you with a few questions. Do you want to have more experiences, do you
really want to have more spiritual experiences? If so, all you need
to do is to clear your mind of preconceived opinions and beliefs about
who you are. This includes the belief that you are a homosexual and
that you don’t need to rise above that dualistic sense of identity.
You already agree that God did not create homosexual or heterosexual
souls, so why is it so difficult to see that in order to reclaim your
true identity, you have to rise above human sexuality? Well, it is difficult
because you have allowed your carnal mind to trap you in a blind alley
of dualistic reasoning. This is the way that seems right unto a man
- or a woman - but the ends thereof are the ways of death—meaning
the consciousness of death.
My other question is this. I would like you to read the following discourse
and seriously consider that you have the potential to be one of the
people I am talking about. You have the potential to manifest your Christhood
in this lifetime. The question is, "Are you willing to do what
it takes to manifest your Christhood?" Are you willing to rise
above any limited sense of identity, including the idea that you are
a homosexual, in order to manifest your Christhood?
One more question. You have no doubt heard about near-death experiences
and how people have a life review. Imagine yourself having a review
of your current lifetime. What would you like to say during that review?
Would you prefer to say that, “I spent my lifetime fighting the
cause of having society accept homosexuality as natural and normal.”
Or would you rather say that, “I spent my lifetime manifesting
my Christhood and helping everyone else manifest their Christhood so
they could rise above all human limitations. Therefore, I made a valuable
contribution to helping Jesus bring God’s kingdom into manifestation
on Earth.”
I am here to tell you that you cannot do both, so you must choose which
sense of identity you will serve.
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