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Question: I feel that I just have to comment on Jesus' answer to Renee about Conversations with God. The question that came to my mind is: the Conversations with God books are truly from God? And I would like to ask the same about the many other messengers who are claiming that they channel God's words? And I would also like to know if the Ascended Host is the highest we can reach and if the only way to Christ consciousness is through the Ascended Host?
Also about Jesus' answer regarding Hitler in the Conversations with God book, I personally think that being erased in the sacred fire would be a minor punishment compared to being eternally tied to the wheel of karma by the lack of a clear vision.

Love, Paula

Translations: Deutsch.

Answer from Jesus:

Concerning your first question, the teachings in the Conversations with God books are not from God. They are from various beings in the emotional and mental realms. This does not mean that there are not a number of true ideas in the books. These ideas originally came from the Ascended Host, but they were not given directly by us for these books.

Concerning whether other messengers are channeling God's words, it is impossible to give a general answer to this question. Some people are indeed channeling the words of God, although there are few of them. There are also those who believe they are channeling the words of God but who are truly working with beings in the emotional or mental realms. These beings might be masquerading as God, but in some cases people's beliefs are indeed projected onto the beings they channel.

In fact, some people believe they are channeling words directly from God, but they are actually getting their words from the Ascended Host. The reason we allow this to happen is that there are indeed many people on this planet who have grown up in a religious culture that does not teach them about the existence of the Ascended Host. Such people are open to contact with the spiritual realm, but because of their religious programming, they believe that any words from Above must be from God. Some people believe there are only two types of beings in the spiritual realm, namely angels and God.

In some cases we allow people to think they are speaking with God because they have reached a sufficient level of Christhood that enables us to bring forth valid teachings through them. These teachings will be tailored to people from the same religious background. It is our hope that both the messenger and the recipients of the messages will gradually be raised in consciousness and understanding, so that they can begin to realize that there are indeed many beings in the spiritual realm.


And I would also like to know if the Ascended Host is the highest we can reach and if the only way to Christ consciousness is through the Ascended Host?

The answer to the first part of this question depends on how you define the Ascended Host. The definition I normally use on this website is that we are beings in the spiritual realm who are working directly with planet Earth. We are assigned to Earth on a long-term – I did not say permanent – basis. Most of us have taken embodiment on Earth or in other parts of the material universe, and therefore we have ascended. Technically, a being who has not taken embodiment is not an ascended being even though it resides permanently in the spiritual realm.

Yet in the spiritual realm there are no barriers, so the group of ascended beings who are working with planet Earth are part of the larger Body of God in Heaven. You can also call that larger body for the Ascended Host. Obviously, all beings in Heaven are part of this spiritual body, including God and all Beings of God.

You have so far seen discourses on this website given by three individual Beings, or Presences, of God. These are beings that in the spiritual hierarchy are actually above and beyond the Creator of this universe. They embody the primordial qualities of the pure Being of God. These beings are not currently a part of the team of ascended beings working with Earth. You might consider their discourses as dispensations or guest appearances. Yet as humankind’s consciousness continues to grow, such Cosmic Beings might indeed begin to work with Earth on a more regular basis.

The vast majority of people on Earth will not be able to reach beyond those members of the Ascended Host who work directly with Earth. A few people are able to do so, and throughout the ages a small number of people have indeed received valid messages from beings that have positions in hierarchy that are higher than any of the beings that belong to the group of ascended beings assigned to Earth.

Concerning the second part of the question, you can receive Christ consciousness only from a being who has attained Christ consciousness. This can be your Christ self, an ascended being or an unascended being with a high degree of Christ consciousness.


Also about Jesus' answer regarding Hitler in the Conversations with God book, I personally think that being erased in the sacred fire would be a minor punishment compared to being eternally tied to the wheel of karma by the lack of a clear vision.

Yes that is correct, but you have to realize that neither God nor any member of the Ascended Host had any desire to punish Hitler. All we desired was to see the soul of Hitler start the path that would have led it to full Christ consciousness, causing it to return to the spiritual realm as an immortal being. Therefore, our only question was whether the soul of Hitler was willing to start that path or whether it would reject the path. It did choose to reject the path, and there was nothing we could do about that. So one might say that for a soul who rejects the path, the second death is the ultimate act of mercy.

In that respect, the Conversations with God books do portray accurately the fact that God has no desire to punish anyone. God does not punish human beings; people punish themselves.

A soul cannot be eternally tied to the wheel of karma. That is why the second death exists for souls who insist on keeping themselves tied to that wheel and show no signs of being willing to self-transcend.

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