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Question: hey there Kim and master J.
peace be upon you

wow i was very surprised to see my question answered cool, thanx a lot. but as my own teacher has told me many times i am nothing more than a dog that chases its own tail.
So here it goes, i study theosophy mainly and i study all religions. I don't worship any god i question everything because that is what i am. i don't follow any teacher in particular but study all teachers.
why is there no true biography about you master J?
when were you born meaning what year and day?
the thing is why does not one historian record your existence and if they did it was a forgery or its questionable? why does Josephus (the historian of the messianic age) not record you? your gospel story can be explained to the mysteries and the esoterics.
it s not truly my goal to be a jerk to you but as you said i'm a spiritual seeker and i simply want to know the facts. i don't want aloof answers or an avoidance to a question? i don't know how much we mere mortals are allowed to know about you or have a right to, but i want to know as much as i can, the truth about your life, just plain factual historical truth.
your gospel story can be explained to all kinds of sources as gods or past historical people. did you know of Apollonius of Tyana or know of him now? were Apollonius and jeshu ben pandira separate souls from one another or were they incarnations of the same soul?
do you condone the church teaching that your mother was a virgin mother. is not rather true that Joseph is your natural father and mary your natural mother that you were born by the natural process of procreation.
what is your real name, what were you called, i know it wasn't jesus. jesus is a latin name derived from the greek and others. you spoke aramaic did you not, so your name is aramaic, is it not
it’s not you on the shroud of turin is it? why because it looks an awful lot like a statue of Apollonius in Naples Italy.
I asked if you had married the Magdalene and had children with her but you did not answer. why do the french hold to belief that its so of magdalene and children.
Edgar Cayce said that you were born on March 19th. what year were you born? herod died in 4 BCE so you weren't born in 1 AD the bible says you were born in 6 or 7 BCE. and so do the new agers. so what do you say?

well if you answer this that will truly surprise me, if you don't that will suck but hope for the best i guess, ask and you shall receive i guess will see huh!
well with love
peace be upon you both
PS i apologize its my nature to question everything and i mean everything geez i would question jesus christ himself, well i guess i am already if this is truly the master J and just not kim being very inspired
PSS its not that i think kim is crazy , hell i cant i study theosophy carlos castaneda and native spirituality so i know there is more to this consensus reality than meets the eye. i’m just trying to get to the bottom of jesus, i’ve been researching jesus for years and i want to know your true life.
well i guess love you both

luv sadaanibina


Answer from Jesus:

When a person posts a question to this website, there is often two levels to the question. The actual question is formulated by, and heavily influenced by, the person's conscious, or outer, mind. Yet behind the outer question is often a deeper question which springs from the soul and its true desire to know. I am a spiritual teacher, and I am fully capable of tuning in to the hidden questions of each soul. When I answer a question, I address both the outer question and the inner question.

That is why, in my answer to your first set of questions, I gave you a teaching on the need to remain balanced and the need to establish a foundation for your spiritual search. My point was to help you understand that you can find true knowledge only by starting out with a foundation of belief, or faith. If you question everything but believe in nothing, then a spiritual teacher simply does not have anything to work with.

You see, when a student approaches a spiritual teacher, the teacher can, by cosmic law, only multiply that which the student brings to the altar. If the student does not dare to believe anything, the teacher has nothing to multiply, and therefore it becomes extremely difficult for the teacher to help the student.

I must tell you that you are a typical example of the state of consciousness shared by many people in this scientific and rational age. Because so many people have glorified and deified the human intellect, they no longer dare to believe in anything that cannot be proven by a so-called factual proof. Yet, as I attempted to explain in my previous answer, there is no such thing as a proof that cannot be questioned by the human intellect.

Therefore, both I and other spiritual teachers are now faced with a large number of people who have a sincere desire to know yet do not dare to believe in anything. The question is how we can communicate truth to such people? The answer is that the only way to help the student is that the student must first go through the inner process of finding something in which the student can believe. The soul must come to a point of daring to say: “I believe in this, even if there is no factual, outer proof that it is true!” In that respect, it is not all that important whether the student believes in something that is factually correct. As long as the student is open to a higher understanding, the teacher can expand and redirect the student’s faith.

By going through this process, the soul comes to a point of resolution at which it dares to believe in something regardless of what the world says about it. This point of faith becomes the foundation for the soul’s communion with its Christ self and its spiritual teachers. You see, God and God’s truth is beyond this world. If you want to know God, you must dare to look beyond this world and believe in something that cannot be proven by any worldly means. If you do not have this inner foundation, you cannot know God’s truth; you can know only the relative truth defined by the powers of this world.

How can you find a point of faith? You can do so only by making contact with your Christ self and thereby gaining an inner knowing, a state of gnosis, which is beyond the understanding of the intellect. The problem in today’s world is that so many people have a split in their souls. Because they have glorified the intellect and rational knowledge, they no longer dare to believe in their intuitive faculties.

Many of these souls are true spiritual seekers. They truly want to understand God and God’s truth, yet they have come to believe that they must have factual proof before they can accept God’s truth. As I have attempted to explain, you cannot find outer, rational or factual proof for the deeper spiritual mysteries. You can understand these mysteries only through the inner state of peace that passeth all intellectual understanding.

You say that you want “the truth about your life, just plain factual historical truth.” Yet you also say that you question everything. So how can I tell you something and make you accept—or rather believe— that it really is “factual, historical” truth? What could I possibly say that you would accept? The simple truth is that I can say nothing until you establish a point of contact with your Christ self whereby you can gain an inner confirmation that what I say is true.

A soul can remain stuck forever in the relative reasoning of the intellect. Because of the Law of Free Will, a spiritual teacher cannot force you to move beyond that impasse. You must move yourself beyond it by deciding that you are willing to believe in something regardless of what the world says about it. I cannot make that decision for you!

I must also tell you that there is a group of souls in the world who find themselves in a difficult situation. These are souls who actually met me when I walked the earth 2,000 years ago. These souls heard me preach and some of them saw me perform various miracles. Because of this outer contact, they came to believe in me as the Christ or the Messiah. Unfortunately, these souls had very specific expectations about how the Messiah should appear. When these outer expectations were not fulfilled, especially as the result of what they saw as my less than honorable death, these souls lost faith in me. They did not accept my resurrection, and they came to doubt that I was really the Christ.

Many of these souls have spent the last 2,000 years going in and out of embodiment in an attempt to resolve this nonbelief in the Living Christ. Some of these souls have resolved their impasse by making contact with the Christ within themselves. Unfortunately, others have not been willing to go within, and instead they continue to look for some outer proof that can help them regain their faith in me. As I have attempted to explain, there is no such outer proof. There is no factual proof which the human intellect cannot question and doubt. Therefore, the only way to restore your faith in me is to go within yourself and get proof directly from your Christ self.

Let me now address your questions and comments.

I do not worship any god

God has no need to be worshipped by human beings. The question is, “Do you believe in God?” Do you believe that God exists? Do you believe that there is a connection between yourself and God and that this connection enables you to know God and know your true relationship to God? If not, you need to make an effort to go within and discover that connection.


i study theosophy mainly and i study all religions
i dot follow any teacher in particular but study all teachers.

While it is good to be open to more than one religion and one teacher, it is dangerous to spread yourself too thin. One of the main ideas described in the Theosophical movement is the Guru-chela relationship. The idea is that there is a group of spiritual beings, what I call the Ascended Host, who for eons have been serving as spiritual teachers for human beings.

The basic principle of the Guru-chela relationship is that the student finds a true teacher and then allows the teacher to take the student to a higher level of consciousness. This sometimes requires that the student must follow the teacher even if the student’s outer mind cannot understand the directions of the teacher.

If you are not willing to follow a teacher, then you have not truly understood the principles behind the Theosophical movement. I would recommend that for a time you select one teacher and teaching and follow it with great intensity. This will help you go within and establish a contact to your Christ self. Once you have this inner contact, you will know when you should again look beyond that one teaching.


why is there no true biography about you master J?

Because I have not authorized anyone to write such a biography. This might change in the future when we of the Ascended Host determine that humankind has risen to a sufficient level of consciousness.

However, you must understand that there really is no point in writing a biography about me. The reason being that the essence of my mission was not the outer, historical events. The essence of my mission is the inner path to a higher state of consciousness, namely personal Christhood.

Knowing the outer facts about my life will not help you walk that path. In fact, if you are obsessed with the outer facts, it demonstrates that you have not yet fully understood the inner message and the inner path.


when were you born meaning what year and day?

This is information that I currently do not want to release to humankind. You will see that this information was not released through the Theosophical Society or any of the later movements mentioned below.

You must understand that when I appeared 2,000 years ago, I taught in the tradition of the ancient mystery teachers. The purpose of this tradition is to teach and demonstrate the inner path. If a student becomes focused on outer, factual knowledge, it will prevent the student from walking the inner path.

Furthermore, 2,000 years ago humankind was in a different state of consciousness than today. As explained elsewhere, people were in a mythical state of consciousness. That is why I taught them in parables, and my parables obviously were not meant to be interpreted as factual events. What I am saying is that in the tradition of the ancient mystery teachers, I deliberately made it difficult for people to know certain facts about my life.

We are now moving into a rational age, and I foresee that in the not too distant future it will be possible to release these facts to humankind. We have not yet reached that point.

Furthermore, if I did give you a specific date, how could you possibly accept that date? Would you not immediately refer to some other source claiming that I was born on a different date and use that to doubt my statement?


the thing is why does not one historian record your existence and if they did it was a forgery or it’s questionable?
why does Josephus (the historian of the messianic age) not record you?

Several historians, including Josephus, mention my existence. You are right that some of these records are forgeries and others are questionable, yet remember my point that there is no knowledge that the human intellect cannot doubt or question.

In considering this question, you need to realize that you are looking at me and my life with a bias that springs from the fact that my life has become the basis for a world-wide religion. When I lived, the world was very different. The means of communication made it difficult to spread knowledge around the globe. As a result, most people were entirely focused on their own immediate surroundings. There were people who lived a few miles from Jerusalem and yet had no idea of my existence.

You must also understand that while I was on this planet only a very small number of people actually saw me as a significant spiritual leader. Most of the Jews rejected me as the Messiah, and therefore they saw no reason to write any historical records about this madman. The Romans regarded me as a rebel. Most Romans outside of Judea had never heard about me, and the historians who had heard about me considered me a rather insignificant Jewish rebel. I did not become truly significant to the Roman empire until Christianity became the official state religion. I can assure you that even today there are people and events that will later be seen as pivotal but which are now regarded as entirely unimportant by most people on this planet.

I must also tell you that in the ancient world the purpose for writing history books was not so much to record facts but to portray an image that supported the ruling elite and its policies. If the writings of a historian did not support the elite, he might be imprisoned or executed. While much of modern history writing is also affected by political concerns, the improved communications technology has made it more difficult to get away with a political rewriting of events.

Another factor is that while a historian might be concerned about preserving of record for posterity, the historian still has to eat. To eat, the historian must write about something which his contemporaries find important. Otherwise, he might be so busy making a living that he has no time to write historical records.


your gospel story can be explained to the mysteries and the esoterics.

Sure it can, and the reason is that the Gospel story contains many timeless and universal spiritual elements and teachings. Some of these can be found in earlier pagan religions. I can assure you that I did and said certain things for the specific purpose of establishing a connection between my own mission and the universal spiritual truths that have guided humankind since the beginning of time.

Once again, the problem is that too many people look at my life with a bias created by modern Christianity. As I state in several places on this website, I did not come to found the religion of Christianity. I came to demonstrate a universal spiritual path that leads to a higher state of consciousness. I had no intention of becoming elevated to an idol or as the only son of God or even as God incarnate. It was my desire to be seen as a mystery teacher who was part of an ancient mystery tradition.

Unfortunately, humankind, with its tendency to create idols, distorted my true teachings and my true message. That is precisely why I have created this website in an attempt to reach those who have ears to hear and who are willing to look beyond orthodox ideas and find the true esoteric teachings that I came to demonstrate.


it s not truly my goal to be a jerk to you but as you said i'm a spiritual seeker and i simply want to know the facts.

Be assured that I do not consider you a jerk. I have no problem with people asking questions and I do not put any limitations on the kind of questions that people can ask. If I did, why would I have created this website?

However, remember my teaching that knowing the facts will not give you faith. As a true spiritual seeker, your first order of business should be to seek the inner contact with your Christ self that will give you faith regardless of what the world considers fact.

i don't want aloof answers or an avoidance to a question?
i don't know how much we mere mortals are allowed to know about you or have a right to

I do not avoid questions, but there are questions that I do not want to answer and there are questions I am not currently allowed to answer. You see, true religion is always based on the principle of progressive revelation. The idea is that we of the Ascended Host give people a specific spiritual teaching. When people study and apply the teaching, they will raise their level of consciousness. This then becomes the foundation for the release of an even higher understanding of spiritual principles. Until people have embodied the previous teaching, we are not allowed to release a more advanced teaching.

You must also realize that the purpose of this website is to help people discover my true teachings about the inner path. Helping people do this is a delicate balance because so many people have been brought up to believe in the orthodox version of my teachings. I do not want to destroy anyone's faith in me or in the value of my teachings. Therefore, I will occasionally refuse to comment on a question if the answer goes too far beyond what I think most people can accept.

Hopefully more and more people will raise their consciousness so that I can release all of the facts about my life. You can help this process by truly embodying the teachings found on this website.

your gospel story can be explained to all kinds of sources as gods or past historical people.

See my previous comments about this.


did you know of Apollonius of Tyana or know of him now?

I briefly met Apollonius and had heard about him from some of my disciples. He could have been one of my disciples, but he chose to go his own way. He was not willing to recognize that I was the one who had been given the mantle as the Messiah. Instead, he wanted to be seen as the Messiah.

Once again, modern Christianity presents a distorted view of my life. I was only one among many preachers who talked about a new age and a new approach to religion, In reality, the religious life found 2,000 years ago was as diverse as what you find today. Many of my contemporaries considered me simply another New Age preacher (although the term obviously was not used back then). Many of the orthodox Jews saw me as part of a dangerous new movement that was to be ignored by followers of the true faith.

were Apollonius and jeshu ben pandira separate souls from one another or were they incarnations of the same soul?

They were separate souls.


do you condone the church teaching that your mother was a virgin mother.
is it not rather true that Joseph is your natural father and mary your natural mother that you were born by the natural process of procreation.

This is one of those questions that people are not yet ready to have answered. Yet I can tell you that the correct interpretation of the word “virgin” is a person without sin and flaw of character. Therefore, the Virgin birth has more than one possible interpretation.


what is your real name, what were you called, i know it wasn't jesus. jesus is a latin name derived from the greek and others.
you spoke aramaic did you not, so your name is aramaic

I have commented on this elsewhere.
In fact, I spoke several languages, but when I preached in Judea I spoke primarily Aramaic.


it's not you on the shroud of turin is it? why because it looks an awful lot like a statue of Apollonius in Naples Italy.

No, that is not my image. You might want to consider why you are so fascinated by Apollonius. I can assure you that it would be better for you to follow me than to follow him.


I asked if you had married the Magdalene and had children with her but you did not answer.
why do the french hold to belief that its so of magdalene and children.

Once again, I do not yet desire to answer this question. I want to leave it up to each person to get his or her own inner answers about this matter.

Some Christians in France follow an ancient esoteric tradition. If you are interested in this question, study that tradition and other sources of knowledge about this matter and seek your own direction from within. I would like people to know the truth about this; I simply do not yet want to make an official statement about it.

However, once again consider why this question is important to you? Will it help you follow in my footsteps, or will it simply confuse you and direct your attention away from the inner path?


Edgar Cayce said that you were born on March 19th.
what year were you born?
herod died in 4 BCE so you weren't born in 1 AD
the bible says you were born in 6 or 7 BCE.
and so do the new agers.
so what do you say?

Once again, humankind is not yet ready for the full knowledge about this. This will be revealed in time as people reach a level of consciousness where it will be possible for them to read the Akashic records. Edgar Cayce did in fact bring forth many true teachings about me. However, the dates and the years that you mention are not correct.


PS i apologize its my nature to question everything and i mean everything geez i would question jesus christ himself, well i guess i am already if this is truly the master J
and just not kim being very inspired

There is no need to apologize. You have the right to ask questions, and I encourage you to do so. However, once again I must admonish you to consider whether you want to continue to question everything or whether you want to come to a point where you start believing in something.


PSS its not that i think kim is crazy, hell i cant i study theosophy carlos castaneda and native spirituality so i know there is more to this consensus reality than meets the eye. i'm just trying to get to the bottom of jesus, i've been researching jesus for years and i want to know your true life.

I hope you realize that Theosophy was the beginning of a new dispensation whereby we of the Ascended Host received permission to publish some of the esoteric teachings that in previous ages had only been given to a select few. The Theosophical Society was indeed sponsored by the Ascended Host for a time, but since then we have also sponsored other movements. These include the Agni Yoga society, the I AM movement, the Bridge to Freedom and the Summit Lighthouse. I recommend that you take a look at these movements before settling on one teaching for further study.

I am not thereby saying that there is anything wrong with the teachings of the Theosophical movement. I am saying that this movement was part of an age-old tradition of progressive revelation. This progressive revelation has been carried on through more recent organizations and indeed this website is a part of that tradition.

I must tell you that you can find better teachings to study than Carlos Castaneda and native spirituality. I am not thereby condemning or criticizing these teachings. I am simply saying that there are much more advanced teachings available, and you have already found some of them.

I understand your desire to know, but I hope you will recognize that your desire for outer knowledge is not the real issue. The real issue is that your soul has a desire to reestablish its faith in me as the Living Christ. That faith cannot be established through outer knowledge. Go within and seek me in your own heart and you shall indeed find me.

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