Objections
from a fundamentalist Christian
NOTE: The letter is quite long. Kim’s
reply is below and contains the text of the letter.
God bless you Kim,
I was directed to your websight by
someone I met just a few days ago. The person said
that if I had questions to try you at:
www.askrealjesus.com. And yes, I do actually have more
than one question for you as a matter of fact. I pray
that God will grant you wisdom and understanding
in the answers. I see from your website that you have
quoted certain parts of the Bible and must therefore
be somewhat familiar with its content. Please read the
following questions carefully, and in their *entirety*
before answering them.
My first question: Who or what
brought you to the possible belief that you are being
used as a vessel of God through which Jesus speaks;
and therefore isn't what you are professing contrary
to what GOD Himself said within the Bible Itself that
He "so loved the world, that He gave His only Begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not
perish, but have everlasting life." and "If we receive
the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for
this is the witness of God which He hath testified of
His Son.(I John 5:9)"? If you are therefore serving
the Only One True and Living GOD, your theology should
and MUST line up with this statement from John 3:16
according to the True promises of GOD. Otherwise, how
could you profess to being used by That very same GOD
Who Himself states:(Mark 13:31:"Heaven and earth shall
pass away: but My Words shall not pass away."; II
Peter 1:20-21:"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of
the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For
the Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:
but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the
Holy Ghost." I John 4:1:"Beloved, believe not every
spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:
because many false prophets are gone out into the
world." Please note:I am aware that many people
erroneously profess that the Bible has mistakes in it,
but the most extensive, and thorough research has
proven that GOD's WORD, stands intact in many
different languages including English(:in English that
authority is the "Authorized King James
Bible(Cambridge)"(ie:not the new king james.)). How do
you therefore possibly justify this dangerous
contradiction(which cannot be justified)?
Second question: if you
are being used by the Real Jesus to prophecy,as you
say you are, then how do you reconcile the differences
between what you are preaching within you website, and
what Jesus actually stated, and said of Himself: "I am
the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto
the Father, but by me.(John 14:6)"? In fact, He even
goes further than this by stating in John 14:7 and
9:"If ye had known Me, ye should have known my Father
also:,...he that hath seen Me hath seen the
Father;..." Based on these facts, doesn't God Himself
define you therefore as serving "another Jesus" and as
preaching another gospel: I Corinthians 11:4,
12-15:"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another
spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel,
which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with
him."; "But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut
off occassion from them which desire occassion: that
wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For
such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel: for satan himself is transformed into
an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if
his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of
righteousness; whose end shall be according to their
works." How do you then reconcile this second
great(irreconcilable) difference?
Third and last question:
unless you are under the strong influence and
authority of another, what would move you towards such
a desire as to contradict what God has clearly
established from before the foundation of the world,
possibly risking severe judgement to be brought upon
yourself, and yet feel comfortable with what you are
professing if you do currently possess a reasonable
understanding of Who God is?
I would imagine that you
must be aware of the Bible's many warnings to those
who would corrupt the Gospel of Christ: Revelation
22:18-19:"For I testify unto every man that heareth
the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man
shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him
the plagues that are written in this book: And if any
man shall take away from the words of the book of this
prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book
of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things
which are written in this book."; Galatians 1:8-9:"But
though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto
you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I
now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you
than that ye have received, let him be accursed."; II
Thessalonians 2:11-12:"And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a
lie: That they all might be damned who believed not
the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." I
John 2:22:"Who is a liar but he that denieth that
Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
The Father and The Son." Revelation 21:8:"...and all
liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth
with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
Beloved,...those verses didn't come from me, but from
ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF. The Real Jesus doesn't want you
to be destroyed, beloved,...He Loves you, and wants
you to live. That's why He is warning you this day,
that you might turn from deception to the Truth.
Simply put, you are either deceiving your own self, or
being deceived by someone or something else(Ephesians
6:12:"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against powers, against the
rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high places."). And remember
beloved: we can't fool GOD(Hebrews 4:13:"Neither is
there any creature that is not manifest in his sight:
but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of
Him with whom we have to do."). He's already
forewarned us of the things of which you are now a
part, long ago:(Luke 12:5:):"But I will forewarn you
whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath
killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto
you, Fear Him."; (Mark 13:5-6:):"And Jesus answering
them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many." Beloved, your either being
lied to, or are yourself dangerously in error. But
their's still Hope. If you confess your sins to the
Real Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of God, and ask
GOD's forgiveness, then turn from this sad deception,
and perhaps go back and warn those who have already
been deceived by it, God will forgive: I John
1:9,8:"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just
to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness"; "If we say that we have no sin, we
deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.". Don't
take it lightly beloved, it's no joke. Remember
this:"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
whatsoever a man soeth, that shall he also
reap.(Galatians 6:7)", and keep in mind that you're
not just putting yourself at risk, but also those who
are unlearned in the Scriptures and therefore would
believe what you are currently professing(Hosea
4:6:"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.").
And you know that God is not pleased
with such things.
I leave you with this:
How to receive
the REAL JESUS as The Lord and Savior of your
life(Acts 4:12:"NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY
OTHER: for there is NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN
AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED."): According to
Romans 10:9-10: (1)Confess with your mouth, ie: say a
prayer asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins and to
be your Lord and Savior. (2)Believe what you are
praying in your heart. For example: reciting the
following:
"O Lord, I know that I am a sinner, and cannot save
myself. Please forgive me of all of my sins, of which
I am sorry and want to turn from, as I now ask you,
the True Jesus of Nazareth who is The Only Begotten
Son of God into my heart and life as my Lord and
Savior. I believe that you died for me, and rose again
on the third day. Thank you for Saving me. In Jesus'
Name. Amen."
Next, get yourself into a True
Bible-believing Born-again Christian Church, where the
Bible is preached as the Final Authority, get
Baptized, and attend regularly, if possible.
"For whosoever shall
call upon the Name of The Lord shall be saved.";
",...for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that
call upon him(Romans 10:13,12b)"
God Bless
you, and I hope that GOD gives you the wisdom and
power to make a decision for Life and your Salvation.
Where you will be spending eternity depends on it.
"O Heavenly Father I thank YOU for this day, and pray
that YOU will touch the hearts of all who read this
letter. By the Authority, and IN THE NAME OF JESUS: I
bind up every evil spirit, of possession, seduction,
and spiritual blindness, and any other unclean devil,
and cast them back down into the pit of hell from
whence they came: not by my own power nor might, but
by Your Pure, Protecting, Saving, ALL POWERFUL SPIRIT.
You Are LOVE O Heavenly Father, according to Your Own
Written WORD in I John 4:16-19. And in THE SPIRIT of
YOUR OWN PERFECT LOVE, I cast out all the fears and
delusions of the enemy, the devil. And it is in JESUS
ALMIGHTY NAME that I pray. Amen!
John 20:27-29,31:"Then
saith He to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and
behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust
it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
And Thomas answered and said unto Him, My Lord and my
God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast
seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that
have not seen, and yet have believed."; "But these are
written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ, the Son of God, and that believing ye might
have life through His Name."
Revelation 1:7-8:"Behold, He cometh with clouds: and
every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced
Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because
of Him. Even so, Amen. I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE
BEGINNING AND THE ENDING, SAITH THE LORD, WHICH IS,
AND WHICH WAS, AND WHICH IS TO COME, THE ALMIGHTY."
Kim’s
reply
This letter is fairly
typical for how fundamentalists, evangelicals and even many orthodox
Catholics react when they find this website. They are deeply concerned
that the teachings on this website do not conform to their particular
doctrines, which they believe represent the only true version and interpretation
of Jesus’ teachings.
They have only one way to explain the discrepancy. Since their doctrines
and interpretations could not possibly be incomplete or in error, the
teachings on this website could not have come from the real Jesus. They
seem to believe Jesus disappeared 2,000 years ago and has not spoken
to us since. They seem to believe that God or Jesus could never say
anything beyond what was said in the past—in other words no progressive
revelation is possible.
I have several problems with this mindset:
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If you believe your
current beliefs and doctrines are complete and infallible, you are
in reality saying that you know everything there is to know about
God. I believe it is extremely dangerous to assume you know everything
there is to know about God. I certainly do not believe I know everything
about Jesus’ complete teachings, in fact I learn something
new every day. With all thy getting, get understanding.
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I believe any true spiritual
person needs to be on guard against pride. And there is a subtle
intellectual and spiritual pride that makes people think they belong
to the only true church, that their doctrines are the only true
doctrines ever given by God and that their interpretations are not
only true but represent the highest possible understanding of the
scriptures. I believe this pride is the exact same pride that caused
so many in the religious establishment to reject Jesus 2,000 years
ago.
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The mindset that a revelation
today cannot go beyond the revelation of yesterday is exactly what
caused the fundamentalist Jews to reject Jesus. They would not let
him say or do anything beyond the letter of the law found in the
Old Testament. Yet I believe Jesus was sent by God to give us a
progressive revelation to take us beyond the Old Testament law.
And I believe God has the right to give us such progressive revelation
any time—including right now.
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When you believe that
any revelation which goes beyond what was given in the past must
be of the devil, you are truly coming from fear. You are afraid
to even consider any idea that goes beyond the scriptures that were
given 2,000 years ago. Yet I believe the scriptures clearly show
that Jesus did not teach or demonstrate a fear-based approach to
religion. Instead, he challenged those who had a fear-based approach
to religion and told us to adopt an approach based on love:
Mt 22:37 Jesus
said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
1Jo 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out
fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect
in love.
Think about it this way.
If all of Jesus’ followers had been fundamentalist Jews, how could
they possibly have followed Jesus? The fundamentalist Jews rejected
Jesus, accused him of being of the devil and warned everyone not to
follow him. So clearly the disciples and followers of Jesus could not
have had a fundamentalist mindset.
If everyone had been fundamentalists, Jesus would have attracted no
followers and his mission would have failed from the beginning. An open
mind and a love-based approach to religion was exactly what enabled
people to follow Jesus 2,000 years ago. And only that mindset can enable
you to follow the Living Jesus today.
To follow the teachings that Jesus gives us today, you have to be willing
to go beyond a fundamentalist mindset. Otherwise you will become a Christian
scribe and Pharisee who is guilty of the hypocrisy of claiming to follow
Christ while rejecting his Living truth.
Mt 23:13 But woe
unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom
of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither
suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
I have decided that I will
not reject the Living Truth that God and Jesus are giving us today.
People with a fundamentalist mindset not only reject that truth, they
reason that anything which contradicts or goes beyond the existing scriptures
– and their particular doctrines and interpretations – could
not possibly come from God or Jesus. And if the teachings are not from
Jesus, then they must be from the man downstairs. In other words, if
you don’t believe what they believe, you must be of the devil.
This makes them very concerned for my soul, and it is their duty to
save me from my error. This is not the first such letter I have received
and probably won’t be the last.
Why I am not a fundamentalist
I am not a fundamentalist Christian because I believe the scriptures
abundantly demonstrate that Jesus was not a fundamentalist Jew—or
Christian. In fact, it was exactly the people with a fundamentalist
mindset who rejected Jesus, challenged everything he did and said, plotted
against him and eventually got him crucified and killed. They were not
willing to open their minds to the new spiritual teachings he came to
give us.
They had closed their minds to anything beyond the outer law that was
given in the past, and they insisted on living by a literal interpretation
(how can any interpretation be literal?) of the letter of the law. Therefore,
the fundamentalists of old had closed their minds to the Living Christ
when he walked among them. The fundamentalists of today have likewise
closed their minds to the Living Christ, and I don’t expect they
will accept his teachings given on this website.
In fact, I don’t think anything I could possibly say could open
their minds to the Living Truth. Yet I feel I should at least address
the concerns raised in this letter and state my position.
From the letter:
God bless you Kim, I was
directed to your website by
someone I met just a few days ago. The person said
that if I had questions to try you at: www.askrealjesus.com. And yes,
I do actually have more than one question for you as a matter of fact.
I pray
that God will grant you wisdom and understanding
in the answers. I see from your website that you have
quoted certain parts of the Bible and must therefore
be somewhat familiar with its content. Please read the
following questions carefully, and in their *entirety*
before answering them.
My first question: Who or what
brought you to the possible belief that you are being
used as a vessel of God through which Jesus speaks;
Kim's
reply: Jesus did. Contrary to many Christians, I don’t
believe Jesus has withdrawn himself from us, never to be heard from
again. I believe he is alive as an ascended being who has all power
in Heaven and on Earth. Therefore, he has the power to communicate with
us in any way he wants. Yet when it comes to exercising that power on
Earth, Jesus respects his Father’s Law of Free Will, meaning that
he can work only through those who are willing to be the open door for
his Living Truth.
How does one become the open door for Jesus? I believe we all have the
potential to follow Jesus’ own call:
Joh 14:12 Verily,
verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I
do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because
I go unto my Father.
I have never met an orthodox
Christian who takes this statement seriously and is willing to interpret
it literally. All I get is embarrassed silence or some intellectual
reasoning about this not really applying to us. Many Christians have
built such an idolatry around Jesus that they believe no human being
could possibly do the works Jesus did. Yet if the Scriptures cannot
err, then Jesus did make this statement, and it could possibly be one
of the most significant statements he made. We better consider what
it really means.
I have decided I will not ignore or explain away this statement. I believe
Jesus did not come to be turned into an idol we worship as being above
and beyond us. I believe he came as an example and he wants all of us
to follow in his footsteps. I believe that by refusing to heed this
statement, we are rejecting Jesus and thereby we are causing his mission
to fail. I love Jesus and I don’t want to see his mission fail,
so I will do everything possible to make his mission a success.
To make Jesus’ mission a success, we must follow his example.
How can we do this? Paul can tell us how:
Php 2:5 Let this
mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
When we open ourselves up
to letting the mind of Christ be in us, we will find the kingdom of
God because we will stop looking for it outside ourselves. As Jesus
said:
Lu 17:21 Neither
shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of
God is within you.
The fact that the kingdom
of God is within us means that it is or can be reached through a state
of consciousness. When we attain that mind of Christ, we become the
open door whereby Jesus can send love and truth to Earth. Jesus can
then use us as he used his disciples and apostles, namely to feed his
sheep.
and therefore isn't what
you are professing contrary
to what GOD Himself said within the Bible Itself that
He "so loved the world, that He gave His only Begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not
perish, but have everlasting life."
What I am professing is that I have a right to contact the real, living
Jesus Christ and I have a right to let him speak through me. He gave
me that right:
Mt 10:27 What I
tell you in darkness, [that] speak ye in light: and what ye hear in
the ear, [that] preach ye upon the housetops.
For lack of a housetop, I
use the internet. No power on Earth can take that right away from me.
I have a right to speak what Jesus gives me to say. And he has many
things to tell us that are not written down in the Bible. He told us
that himself:
12 I have yet many
things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you
into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever
he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things
to come. (John 16)
and "If we receive
the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the
witness of God which He hath testified of
His Son.(I John 5:9)"?
I do not claim to have or be concerned with the witness of men. However,
you seem to judge me based on the witness of men, namely men who use
the Bible to judge everything according to the letter of the law, yet
have not the spirit of the law:
2Co 3:6 Who also
hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter,
but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Jesus himself has made me
a minister of the new testament that he desires to give people in this
age. Therefore, I am not a minister of the letter of the old testament
given 2,000 years ago. I am a minister of the new testament that Jesus
is giving today.
I believe truth is alive and that as humankind raises its consciousness,
it is only natural that Jesus will give us a higher understanding than
we were able to receive in the past. Will you partake of the Living
Truth that Jesus offers you on this website, or will you cling to the
dead letter? Unless you partake of the Living Truth of Jesus, you have
no life in you.
If you are therefore serving
the Only One True and Living GOD, your theology should
and MUST line up with this statement from John 3:16
according to the True promises of GOD. Otherwise, how
could you profess to being used by That very same GOD
Who Himself states:(Mark 13:31:"Heaven and earth shall
pass away: but My Words shall not pass away."; II
Peter 1:20-21:"
In your eagerness to judge by the letter of the law, you overlook the
fact – demonstrated in abundance by the scriptures – that
the scribes, the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the lawyers and the temple
priests used that very same mindset to judge, condemn, persecute and
eventually kill Jesus.
They repeatedly sought to trap him by making him say or do something
that conflicted the Old Testament so they could judge him by the letter.
Yet the Spirit of Truth cannot be confined to a book or an outer law.
As Jesus said:
Mr 2:27 And he
said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the
sabbath:
Likewise, the scriptures
were made for man and not man for the scriptures. The fact that the
word of God shall not pass away does not mean that the word of God will
remain the same forever. If that were the case, why would God have sent
Jesus? The Law of Moses should have been all we would ever need.
The simple fact is that God has a right to bring forth new revelation
when he so pleases and when he can find someone who is willing to be
the open door. That is why Jesus came to earth 2,000 years ago, namely
to give us new revelation. Today he is using me and others to give the
next chapter in HIS ongoing revelation for this planet.
In giving this new revelation, God
and Jesus are not concerned with what human beings or human institutions
think or say:
Ac 10:34 Then Peter
opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no
respecter of persons:
Mt 11:15 He that hath ears
to hear, let him hear.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of
the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For
the Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:
but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the
Holy Ghost." I John 4:1:"Beloved, believe not every
spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:
because many false prophets are gone out into the
world."
I am not interpreting Scripture by my private interpretation. I am speaking
what Jesus himself gives me to say and I am indeed moved by the Holy
Ghost. I have dedicated my entire life to living as a holy man of God,
and become a pure vessel who does not let preconceived opinions stand
in the way of the delivery of the Living Word. I have decided that I
am indeed willing to enter the kingdom of God, and I know that kingdom
is within me. Therefore, I am not looking for it in an outer church
or an outer doctrine.
I am come in the tradition of the timeless, universal prophets, sages
and seers of all ages. I am not appointed by the powers of this world
nor by my own power. I am anointed by the Living Jesus Christ, and I
am willing to let the Spirit of truth dwell within me and blow where
it listeth.
I can assure you that I have tried the spirits and I continue to do
so. Yet I do not try the spirits with my intellect or with my fear-based
emotions. I do not try the spirits by comparing them to the letter of
outer doctrines or human interpretations. I try the spirits with the
discernment that can come only through the mind of Christ, which all
of us have access to in the inner kingdom. As Jesus clearly said, the
“flesh and blood” of the outer mind cannot tell you what
is of God:
Mt 16:17 And Jesus
answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh
and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is
in heaven.
You are the one who is subjecting
the scriptures to private interpretation by concluding that Jesus is
not allowed to say anything today that goes beyond what the scriptures
say. Thereby, you are refusing to enter the inner kingdom, and you are
making yourself a follower of the lawyers rather than a follower of
the Living Christ. Do you really think Jesus and his teachings can be
confined to a book?
Joh 21:25 And there
are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should
be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not
contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Is this one statement not
proof that the Bible cannot tell us everything there is to know about
Jesus? I certainly can’t interpret it in any other way.
Please note:I am aware
that many people
erroneously profess that the Bible has mistakes in it,
but the most extensive, and thorough research has
proven that GOD's WORD, stands intact in many
different languages including English(:in English that
authority is the "Authorized King James
Bible(Cambridge)"(ie:not the new king james.)). How do
you therefore possibly justify this dangerous
contradiction(which cannot be justified)?
First of all, God’s word cannot be confined to a book, nor can
God be known by studying an outer doctrine:
Joh 4:24 God [is]
a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and
in truth.
Yet if God was as concerned
about giving us an infallible and never-changing scripture, why do we
have four Gospels that differ in many ways and in some instances are
contradictory? Why not just give us one Gospel?
Could it be that God wants us to look beyond the written letter to discover
the spirit of truth that cannot be confined to any scripture? The scribes
and the Pharisees thought it was enough to follow the letter of the
outer law. They thought their salvation was guaranteed. Yet Jesus said:
Mt 5:20 For I say
unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness]
of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom
of heaven.
The scribes and the Pharisees
were as self-righteous as are many Christians today. Too many Christians
believe that because they have declared Jesus to be their Lord and Savior
and because they follow the outer letter, they will automatically be
saved. Jesus makes it clear that this is an illusion.
Second question: if you
are being used by the Real Jesus to prophecy,as you
say you are, then how do you reconcile the differences
between what you are preaching within you website, and
what Jesus actually stated, and said of Himself: "I am
the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto
the Father, but by me.(John 14:6)"?
First of all, I am not preaching anything on this website. You are the
one preaching. I am allowing the Living Jesus to speak through me.
Jesus explains the true meaning of the above statement on this website,
and there is no contradiction between that statement and what is said
on this website. However, you will understand that only when you seek
the spirit rather than the letter of the law.
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. But he also came to demonstrate
by example the way that all of us can follow, namely the way of letting
the mind of Christ be in us. His early followers were not called Christians,
but “Followers of the Way.” When we believe on Jesus, we
will walk the way that he walked and do the works that he did.
In reality, Jesus had become one with the mind of Christ and when he
said “I am the way” it was the mind of Christ speaking through
him. Therefore, the true way is not the outer person of Jesus but the
inner person of the Christ mind:
1Pe 3:4 But [let
it be] the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible,
[even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight
of God of great price.
We can follow the true way
only when we too put on the mind of Christ instead of thinking Jesus
has already done all that was required for our salvation.
In fact, He even
goes further than this by stating in John 14:7 and
9:"If ye had known Me, ye should have known my Father
also:,...he that hath seen Me hath seen the
Father;..."
The problem here is that you have not seen the Living Jesus. You have
seen a man-made idol created over a 2,000-year period. I have dared
to look beyond that idol and see the real, living Jesus Christ as he
is today. And I can tell you that he is very different from the idol
that you mistakenly believe is the real Jesus. Only when you see the
Living Jesus will you see the Father.
Based on these facts, doesn't
God Himself
define you therefore as serving "another Jesus" and as
preaching another gospel:
I am not serving another Jesus or preaching another Gospel. I am serving
the real Jesus and I am letting him preach his new gospel through me.
I Corinthians 11:4,
12-15:"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another
spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel,
which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with
him."; "But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut
off occassion from them which desire occassion: that
wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For
such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel: for satan himself is transformed into
an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if
his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of
righteousness; whose end shall be according to their
works." How do you then reconcile this second
great(irreconcilable) difference?
It is the people who take the same mindset as the scribes and Pharisees
who preach another Jesus, namely a dead idol that has no resemblance
to the Living Jesus. You seem to overlook the real meaning of the statement,
“But what
I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which
desire occasion: that wherein they glory, they may be found even as
we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves
into the apostles of Christ.”
It refers precisely to those
who seek outer justification for their actions and beliefs—as
you do by referring to the written scripture and rejecting the Spirit
of Truth. They believe they are apostles of Christ, but they preach
a dead doctrine devoid of the Living Spirit of Truth.
Are you willing to know Jesus as he really is, or will you try to confine
him to the official doctrines and their literal interpretation? Are
you willing to let the Living Jesus reveal himself to you in your heart,
or are you afraid that knowing the truth might force you to abandon
your doctrines, doctrines that were created by the people about whom
Jesus said:
Mt 23:27 Woe unto
you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited
sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within
full of dead [men's] bones, and of all uncleanness.
Third and last question:
unless you are under the strong influence and
authority of another, what would move you towards such
a desire as to contradict what God has clearly
established from before the foundation of the world,
possibly risking severe judgement to be brought upon
yourself, and yet feel comfortable with what you are
professing if you do currently possess a reasonable
understanding of Who God is?
I am under the influence of the Living Spirit of Truth, and I am willing
to let that Spirit speak what it wants to speak:
Joh 3:8 The wind
bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but
canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every
one that is born of the Spirit.
Why did God send Jesus to
Earth? He sent him to give us a new teaching, and the scribes and Pharisees
– the fundamentalist Jews – accused him of blasphemy because
his words did not follow the letter of the old law.
Yet Jesus was sent – as was the Old Testament prophets –
because people had departed from the spirit of the law and had become
trapped by a rigid adherence to the letter of the outer law. Jesus was
sent to awaken people from their sleep, but some would not be awakened.
They wanted to stay where they were comfortable and felt they had everything
under control—even God. They were not willing to let God disturb
them with a new understanding. When Jesus threatened their sense of
security, they became angry and then they killed him.
Will you accept the Living Christ today, or will you remain in the very
mindset that killed the living Christ 2,000 years ago?
I would imagine that you
must be aware of the Bible's many warnings to those
who would corrupt the Gospel of Christ: Revelation
22:18-19:"For I testify unto every man that heareth
the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man
shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him
the plagues that are written in this book: And if any
man shall take away from the words of the book of this
prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book
of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things
which are written in this book.";
And you have just proven the point that men can and will add to and
subtract from the scriptures and create doctrines that seem to confirm
what they want to believe. It is stated in the scriptures, and this
is why God cannot give us a scripture one time that will be valid for
all eternity. That is why progressive revelation is necessary. It is
necessary partly because we can stray from the original teachings and
partly because as we raise our understanding, we can be given a higher
truth.
The Old Testament prophets gave God’s progressive revelation.
Jesus gave it. The apostles gave it. Many saints have given it. And
today many people are giving it, this website being but one example.
You might consider that while there are warnings about corrupting the
gospel, there are many ways to corrupt the gospel. The scribes and the
Pharisees thought they were doing everything right, yet they had corrupted
and silenced the spirit of the law. When Jesus allowed himself to be
an instrument for that spirit, they silenced him. What is the penalty
for silencing the Spirit of Truth?
Galatians 1:8-9:"But
though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto
you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I
now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you
than that ye have received, let him be accursed."; II
Thessalonians 2:11-12:"
Yet a little later in that same passage, Paul states:
11 But I certify
you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after
man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but
by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
So one would assume that
Paul would be willing to say what Jesus himself gave him to say through
direct revelation. Do you really think Paul would have prevented Jesus
from giving new revelation? Do you think Paul or the other apostles
would have prevented Jesus from saying anything that was beyond the
old scriptures? Much of what Jesus said through his apostles 2,000 years
ago was beyond the Old Testament law. So is it not natural that much
of what Jesus has to say today is beyond what he could tell us 2,000
years ago? Once again:
Joh 16:12 I have
yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
And for this cause God
shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a
lie: That they all might be damned who believed not
the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." I
John 2:22:"Who is a liar but he that denieth that
Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
The Father and The Son." Revelation 21:8:"...and all
liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth
with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
And the people suffering from this strong delusion are those who have
not the spirit of truth because they cling to the letter of the law.
They have created their own interpretations which they believe are infallible,
so they are not willing to let the Spirit of Truth move them.
What does it mean to deny Christ? You seem to believe that Jesus today
can be confined to scriptures that were written down 2,000 years ago.
You deny any other Christ than the one found in your letter-of-the-law
interpretation of the scriptures.
I have chosen not to deny the Living Jesus Christ as the spiritual being
he is today. I want the real Jesus as he is today, not as he was 2,000
years ago or as the Christian scribes and Pharisees say he was.
I will not deny the Living Jesus and I will not deny him the opportunity
to speak through me and use me as an open door for bringing out the
teachings he wants to give humankind in this age.
Beloved,...those verses
didn't come from me, but from
ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF.
What is on this website does not come from me, but from the Living Jesus
Christ. Are you saying that he has no right to say anything today that
goes beyond what was said 2,000 years ago? Are you saying that despite
the fact that we know infinitely more today than people knew 2,000 years
ago, neither God nor Jesus has any more to tell us than what was said
back then?
If you say this, I think you are putting limitations on both God and
Jesus, and I for one would never do that. I do not believe I can create
a mental box that will hold God or Jesus. In fact I believe creating
such a mental image of God violates the first commandment:
Ex 20:3 Thou shalt
have no other gods before me.
I believe human beings have
created many false gods, many false images. To me, creating a mental
image of God and Jesus is creating a graven image; it is idol worship:
Ex 20:4 Thou shalt
not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing]
that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that
[is] in the water under the earth:
I for one will no longer
dance around the golden calf created by the scribes and Pharisees of
orthodox Christianity. I have left the idol worshipers and started climbing
the mountain of God in search of the true God who is a consuming fire
that will consume all illusions and false beliefs. I am indeed willing
to let my God strip me of all illusion that I may know the Living Spirit
of Truth.
The Real Jesus doesn't
want you
to be destroyed, beloved,...He Loves you, and wants
you to live.
And he wants you to live. He doesn’t want you to go the way of
the scribes and the Pharisees. How can you live in the Spirit?
Joh 6:53 Then Jesus
said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the
flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
He wants you to partake of
his “body and blood” meaning his consciousness, the Christ
consciousness.
That's why He is warning
you this day,
that you might turn from deception to the Truth.
No, he is warning you.
Pr 14:12 There
is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are]
the ways of death.
The way that seemeth right
unto a man was the way taken by the scribes and Pharisees who clung
to the letter of the law and denied the spirit of truth. They were not
willing to enter the kingdom of God within them, and they sought to
prevent all others from entering. I am willing to enter that kingdom,
and by the Grace of God I will not let any power on Earth stop me!
Simply put, you are either
deceiving your own self, or
being deceived by someone or something else(Ephesians
6:12:"
It is wise not to accuse others before you have looked in the mirror:
3 And why beholdest
thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the
beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out
of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and
then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's
eye. (Matthew, Chapter 7)
For we wrestle not against
flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against powers, against the
rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high places.").
At the time of Jesus, the spiritual wickedness in high places were the
fundamentalist leaders of the Jewish religion. They had created the
false doctrine that people could be saved only through the outer church.
Jesus denounced them and stated that the true way to salvation is the
inner path of putting on the mind of Christ. The Jewish leaders said
the kingdom of God was in Heaven and that you could get there only through
the outer religion. Jesus said:
Lu 17:21 Neither
shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of
God is within you.
Today some Christian leaders
are saying the exact same thing about the outer Christian religion.
Yet the kingdom of God is still within you, and you will never enter
it as long as you are looking outside yourself, even if you are looking
in the Christian scriptures.
And remember
beloved: we can't fool GOD(Hebrews 4:13:"Neither is
there any creature that is not manifest in his sight:
but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of
Him with whom we have to do.").
I do know we cannot fool God, and that is precisely why I will not deny
the Living Christ and his Living Truth! I am willing to let go of my
preconceived opinions and stand “naked” before my God. Are
you willing to let go of your fundamentalist beliefs?
He's already
forewarned us of the things of which you are now a
part, long ago:(Luke 12:5:):"But I will forewarn you
whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath
killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto
you, Fear Him."; (Mark 13:5-6:):"And Jesus answering
them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many."
That is right. There are many false Christs in the world. Unfortunately
some of them hold high positions in Christian churches and they are
deceiving their congregations into denying the true Christ within everyone.
Mt 7:15 Beware
of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly
they are ravening wolves.
The sheep’s clothing
is sometimes the clothing of Christian clergymen who are angry at God
and therefore deny the Living Truth and cling to their man-made doctrines.
Take note that while Jesus said, “many shall come in My Name,
saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." He did not say that
everyone who comes in his name is a deceiver.
You seem to be rejecting everyone, and that is what the scribes and
Pharisees did to Jesus. They said that no one could say anything beyond
the old law, and you are now saying the same about the Christian scriptures.
You are even denying Jesus himself the right to give us new understanding.
Truly, one cannot pour new wine (understanding) into old wineskins (minds).
The right approach is to seek the Spirit of Truth whereby you can tell
the difference between the false prophets and the true prophets.
Joh 8:32 And ye
shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Joh 14:17 [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for
he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
1Jo 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth,
but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
1Jo 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure
our hearts before him.
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is
not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and
the spirit of error.
Take note that to know the
truth, you must let the Spirit of Truth dwell in you! Paying him lipservice
is not enough.
Beloved, your either being
lied to, or are yourself dangerously in error. But
their's still Hope. If you confess your sins to the
Real Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of God, and ask
GOD's forgiveness, then turn from this sad deception,
and perhaps go back and warn those who have already
been deceived by it, God will forgive: I John
1:9,8:"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just
to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all
unrighteousness"; "If we say that we have no sin, we
deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.".
Don't
take it lightly beloved, it's no joke. Remember
this:"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
whatsoever a man soeth, that shall he also
reap.(Galatians 6:7)", and keep in mind that you're
not just putting yourself at risk, but also those who
are unlearned in the Scriptures and therefore would
believe what you are currently professing(Hosea
4:6:"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.").
And you know that God is not pleased
with such things.
I suggest you follow your own advice. Open your heart and let the Living
Jesus reveal his truth to you. Yet to truly hear him, you must be willing
to look beyond the outer doctrines. You must empty your mind of some
of those doctrines so there is room for him to enter. If there is no
room in the inn, then Christ must be born elsewhere. I have dared to
let the Christ mind be born in me. Have you done the same?
I leave you with this:
How to receive
the REAL JESUS as The Lord and Savior of your
life(Acts 4:12:"NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY
OTHER: for there is NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN
AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED."): According to
Romans 10:9-10: (1)Confess with your mouth, ie: say a
prayer asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins and to
be your Lord and Savior. (2)Believe what you are
praying in your heart.
I have long ago opened my heart to the Living Jesus. Obviously, you
have not done the same. I am perfectly willing to let God be the judge
of who is right, and I know where I stand with my God. I have made peace
with my God and I am willing to know truth. I have long ago stated before
God and Jesus that I am willing to overcome all of my outer, human,
carnal beliefs in order to know the Living Truth.
Will you continue to seek “truth” in the outer Scriptures,
or will you let the Spirit of Truth dwell in you?
Joh 14:17 [Even]
the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with
you, and shall be in you.
The bottom line is this.
We can throw Bible quotes at each other all day long, but none of us
can know truth through the “flesh and blood” of the outer,
analytical, carnal mind. I have long ago decided that I cannot know
truth on my own, and I asked Jesus to give me his living, inner truth.
I will continue to ask for the Living Truth as long as I have breath.
I love truth, I love Jesus and I love God with all my mind, heart and
soul.
I also love my neighbor as myself, and that is why I agreed to create
this website, knowing full well that some of my neighbors would react
as you have done:
10 Blessed [are]
they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the
kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you],
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven:
for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
(Matthew, Chapter 5)
The prayer at the end of
your letter is very nice, and I took the time to give it, as I have
given many similar prayers over the years, declaring Jesus Christ –
the Living Jesus Christ – as my Lord and Savior. My question is:
Are you willing to give a simple prayer for Jesus to show you his Living
Truth?
In other words, if any of your current beliefs about Jesus are incorrect
or incomplete, do you want to know? Or would you rather continue to
deny the Spirit of the inner law in favor of the letter of the outer
law?
If you are willing to listen for the Living Truth, I suggest the following
prayer. I also suggest you go into your closet – the quiet place
inside your heart where no man-made prejudices can enter – to
pray (Matthew 6:6). Then listen for the answer with the mind of a little
child who doesn’t believe he knows everything and therefore is
willing to learn something new (Matthew 18:3).
Beloved Jesus Christ,
I recognize that men can be in error and that I might not know the
fullness of your Living Truth. I recognize that you said:
Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now.
I am willing to learn the things you could not tell people 2,000 years
ago, even if they go beyond the doctrines and interpretations I now
believe. If any of my current beliefs are incomplete or in error,
then please show me the Living Truth that you are. Jesus, with all
my getting, I am willing to get understanding.
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